Old Dell Vostrol 400 Can't turn on Virtualization
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Offline gregorylock

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Old Dell Vostrol 400 Can't turn on Virtualization
« on: January 21, 2019, 08:26:48 PM »
I've been using this old computer and I run 64 bit OSes on it.  For some reason in the BIOS I can not turn on Intel Virtualization.  Actually doesn't seem to be any place in the BIOS to turn it on or off.  It's weird!  Currently in virtual box I can only install 32 bit OSes.  Because I can't turn on the Virtualization. 

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System:    Host: gregory-intel-DG965OT Kernel: 4.4.0-141-generic x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 5.4.0)
           Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 (Gtk 2.24.28) Distro: Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia
Machine:   System: Dell product: Vostro 400
           Mobo: Dell model: 0GN723 v: ���
           Bios: Dell v: 1.0.15 date: 06/23/2008
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core2 Duo E4600 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3) bmips: 9575
           clock speeds: max: 2400 MHz 1: 2400 MHz 2: 2400 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GT218 [GeForce 210] bus-ID: 01:00.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: nvidia (unloaded: fbdev,vesa,nouveau)
           Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
           GLX Renderer: GeForce 210/PCIe/SSE2
           GLX Version: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 340.107 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card-1 NVIDIA High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 01:00.1
           Card-2 Intel 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.0-141-generic
Network:   Card-1: Intel 82562V-2 10/100 Network Connection
           driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k port: ff00 bus-ID: 00:19.0
           IF: enp0s25 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: D-Link System DGE-528T Gigabit Ethernet Adapter
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: de00 bus-ID: 02:01.0
           IF: enp2s1 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 515.5GB (22.6% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD5000LPLX size: 500.1GB
           ID-2: USB /dev/sdb model: Infinitive size: 15.4GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 455G used: 105G (25%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 4.29GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda5
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 40.0C mobo: N/A gpu: 0.0:53C
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 195 Uptime: 14 min Memory: 1174.1/3949.9MB
           Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 5.4.0
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.481) inxi: 2.2.35

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Re: Old Dell Vostrol 400 Can't turn on Virtualization
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2019, 08:36:16 PM »
The cpu does not support vt-x. Support started at the end of that generation in Q6000/9000's I believe. Not on E series cpu's as far as I know.

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Re: Re: Old Dell Vostrol 400 Can't turn on Virtualization
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2019, 09:12:42 PM »
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The cpu does not support vt-x. Support started at the end of that generation in Q6000/9000's I believe. Not on E series cpu's as far as I know.

I have the manual to this one and says virtualization is on by default.

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Virtualization Technology—Enabled; Disabled (Enabled
by default)

But I guess your right this Intel Chip doesn't support it.  :(

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This was a big waste of my time!  DOH!

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Re: Re: Old Dell Vostrol 400 Can't turn on Virtualization
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2019, 07:07:05 AM »
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The cpu does not support vt-x. Support started at the end of that generation in Q6000/9000's I believe. Not on E series cpu's as far as I know.

There are Core 2 Duos that exist with VT-x, like the E6300. I used to use one :P
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Re: Old Dell Vostrol 400 Can't turn on Virtualization
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2019, 09:09:54 PM »
MY Dell Vostro 200 would not virtualize 64 bit systems either, only 32's

and don't bother looking for any way to mod the chip... there's a pin level Overclock you can do on that chip (I could double mine from 1800 Mhz to 3600 Mhz by shorting two pins and blocvking another) but there's no pin level mod to turn on virtualization
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Re: Old Dell Vostrol 400 Can't turn on Virtualization
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2019, 04:26:41 PM »
I'm not planning on doing any mods to make it virtualize.  It just really threw me for a loop, because I own another dual core computer from the same time period, and it can virtualize 64 bit.  Also my little newer i3 laptop can too.  I feel into believing that all my computers could do it.  Also when I looked up this computer on google and startpage, I found some interesting results.  Sounded like there is some Dell models that locks the user out of some of the advanced bios stuff.  And the only way to get into those features is to download a program that runs on windows.  I don't think that is the case for this computer, but according to the intel website this intel chip does not have virtualization.  So there's that.


These computer part manufactures always throw me into mental loops because they make so many different variables of the same basic things.  Just about the time I think I know something they do something to make sure I don't!  LOL

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Re: Old Dell Vostrol 400 Can't turn on Virtualization
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2019, 04:54:34 PM »
Really there are many steps, levels, feature sets to virtualization. For me there is a hump to get over before we're in a different category.  It's useful for exploring on lower end machines, like a play sandbox. Something like Qubes takes it to sophisticated brilliance. Then with lots of power and slots and hardware it's simply the way to do it.