POLL: BORDERLESS WINDOWS? Welcome, Guest. Cup of Linux » Homebrewed Linux (mCOLe & More) » Feature Requests » POLL: BORDERLESS WINDOWS? "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Benjamin Franklin « previous next » Print Pages:  2 Go Down Author Topic: POLL: BORDERLESS WINDOWS? (Read 7961 times) Spatry Benevolent Dictator Administrator - Sysop Posts: 5799 Cup of Linux Founder POLL: BORDERLESS WINDOWS? « on: April 08, 2014, 06:25:39 AM » Manjaro Cup of Linux edition ships with BORDERLESS Windows by default. I am interested in knowing what the community thinks about them. Logged Windows assumes the user is an idiot... Linux DEMANDS Proof! computerkid9 I do not obey RULES! Jr. Member Posts: 61 Re: BORDERLESS WINDOWS? « Reply #1 on: April 08, 2014, 10:00:11 AM » I prefer having window borders on the system.It makes it easier to move,rezize and maximize.Also I got used to having window borders. Logged Mario Uribe,Member of Cup of Linux and the Linux Distro CommunityA Current user of Manjaro 0.8.9 drum Spatry's IRON FIST! Contributor Posts: 595 the Spamhammer Re: BORDERLESS WINDOWS? « Reply #2 on: April 08, 2014, 10:32:37 AM » I have voted for having BOTH options available to me, if you don't want the borderless windows it is easy to change but it is not so easy to make a borderless window so .... . Logged The "Penguin" has arrived - and he's not going away - ever.It's not the software that's free; it's you."It does what I expect of it, when I expect it - otherwise, stays out of my way." http://i61.tinypic.com/2emgzrp.jpg Synrgy87 Contributor Posts: 530 There Ain't no Party like an Old School Party. Re: BORDERLESS WINDOWS? « Reply #3 on: April 08, 2014, 11:45:13 AM » Personally I prefer window borders, but I voted both, as for me I also like choice, one reason I love Linux Logged M.S.M. Dev, Show Host & Nuisance Contributor Posts: 118 Founder of Tech Cafe' Re: BORDERLESS WINDOWS? « Reply #4 on: April 08, 2014, 12:04:17 PM » Windows borders for sure by default. so new users don't freak out when they see it for the first time. but have the option for those that want it. personally i prefer having borders. I believe that the end user should not be aware of the system. Meaning if you are writing a document, or editing video, or whatever. the underling OS should be the last thing on your mind. That's a key component to a good user experience. trying to remember how to move your windows around steps outside of that zone in my opinion. For customization reasons yes, make it an option. But make it an opt in rather than an opt out. just my opinion. Logged Kueller Spatry's Security Guard Staff Member Posts: 327 Re: BORDERLESS WINDOWS? « Reply #5 on: April 08, 2014, 03:23:51 PM » I do enjoy the borderless windows but as Matthew said for beginner users it might freak them out if they didn't see the prior video or documentation. I think leaving the toggle switch but having it deafult to borders would be best. Logged Tea Newbie Posts: 8 Re: POLL: BORDERLESS WINDOWS? « Reply #6 on: April 10, 2014, 09:23:28 AM » As I said on irc, I find not having them frustrating. Having always had borders form win3/gem onward you do have a tendency to get used to them.But give a choice, a toggle between the two. Logged blindpcguy Full Member Posts: 189 mac and linux tie windows next Re: POLL: BORDERLESS WINDOWS? « Reply #7 on: April 17, 2014, 03:57:17 PM » i voted both because i havent tried cup of linux edition yet so i havent experenced bourderless windows. i say a toggle during installation would be the best a scren that says do you want borderlss or bourdered windows and it defaults to what you c hoos. Logged “Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.” Master Yoda GamerDisturbed Newbie Posts: 20 Welcome to the circus of values. Re: POLL: BORDERLESS WINDOWS? « Reply #8 on: August 02, 2014, 05:50:46 PM » I'm with the majority. No borders are better for saving screen space but aesthetically in my opinion the borders make the windows look a lot better. Logged niculinux Jr. Member Posts: 40 Re: POLL: BORDERLESS WINDOWS? « Reply #9 on: December 06, 2014, 08:53:26 AM » I' like full-bordered windows, there's already openbox manjaro community edition for those who not want these Logged "The only thing you need because the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing".(Edmund Burke) Will Spatry's Tardis Operator Contributor Posts: 498 Chronic Distro Hopper Re: POLL: BORDERLESS WINDOWS? « Reply #10 on: December 06, 2014, 10:42:48 AM » I had to use borderless windows earlier. Emerald crashed, and I was in the middle of watching a video (Hehe, it was Paul McGann's episode (film) of Doctor Who, Spatry might like that) and was using other programs in the background just using ALT+drag to go about. It was certainly a experience... maybe a future thing. Logged Ryzen 7 2700x, 32GB(3600MHz), 500GB 850 EVO, Sapphire Nitro+ RX 580 + EVGA Geforce GTX 1080 | Gentoo lcRONOS I will run all the Operating Systems! Staff Member Posts: 751 Re: POLL: BORDERLESS WINDOWS? « Reply #11 on: December 08, 2014, 01:26:39 PM » I think it should be there as an option. I personally like having them there unless maximized in which case I care more about space. In KDE it's an edit in a config file, so not too hard, but like the borderless windows in mCOLe it's not exactly easy to activate or deactivate without knowing about it. Maybe a readme being added into the distro that a new user would see on or during install would help users know how to deactivate it? I think it should be something you opt in to though. Logged Laptop: HP Pavilion 15t, quadboot Obarun Linux, macOS 10.13, TrueOS, Windows 10Desktop: Dell Inspiron 660, dualboot Artix Linux,Windows 1 Linux Lounge Full Member Posts: 175 Re: POLL: BORDERLESS WINDOWS? « Reply #12 on: April 25, 2016, 01:41:24 PM » Ive just started using borderless, I must say its great! Logged TheTexasRAT Newbie Posts: 29 Re: POLL: BORDERLESS WINDOWS? « Reply #13 on: April 26, 2016, 01:37:25 AM » I tried the borderless style and it is just too weird for me having to relearn how to do stuff.I personally like the border looks as well. But I did figure out how to undo the borderless windows and from then on out I am happy. I know it all boils down to personal taste, but as one coming from Windows over to Linux it is easier if Windows users do not have to relearn every thing all at once in my opinion. That is one reason Windows users go back to Windows after trying Linux because it can be over whelming. And If Linux is ever going to become #1 the need to make the change easier for new people. After people are won over to the Linux world and finally get into the customization of Linux they are already getting used to having to read about how to do stuff and working through it all so they should be alright with having to opt into stuff more than new people having to figure out how to undo stuff so that they can get used to Linux with little issues as possible.I would like to see Linux as the #1 OS in the world but it is going to have to become user friendly for Windows users first before people will migrate over in groves. So Making them have to study up on how to make it easier for them to figure out how to use Linux would defeat the goal of putting Windows under the swatter in my opinion. Logged and remember, wisdom never lies inked to the pages coddled by a book but yet rather supply about the inside of open minds that render the confounds thereof. Kalthrix Contributor Posts: 1308 Re: POLL: BORDERLESS WINDOWS? « Reply #14 on: May 14, 2016, 02:28:59 PM » To be honest, I love having minimal to non-existant borders. However, I still prefer having a minimal title bar with small window controls to allow for me to be able to easy move around windows, however I just couldn't adjust to not having them. I think the only thing that irks me about missing both the title bar and the window controls is that I have to perform two additional steps in order to move a window rather than clicking it with my mouse and dragging it or hitting the window controls to accomplish what I am wanting to do in just one step. I am a fan with how you themed MCOL though. Just personally can't do without the title bar and the window controls. Personal preference. I can see how it does look a lot cleaner without them. I guess old habits die hard. 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