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Title: Manjaro-Cup of Linux Edition is UNDERWAY!
Post by: Spatry on April 01, 2014, 09:30:13 PM
Here are a few screenshots to show what you can come to expect! This new SPIN will be MANJARO. This spin will be a SMALL distribution you can easily build on top of. Colopsys will have the following features:



(http://www.cupoflinux.com/2014scr.png)


(http://www.cupoflinux.com/scrot3d.png)

Every attempt will be made to create a distribution small enough to fit on a CD. So only the basic essential software will be supplied in this release. Any feature requests of suggestions can be placed here for consideration! CHEERS!
Title: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: mrmattdarnell on April 01, 2014, 09:41:50 PM
I actually thought about building my distribution on top of this one, however with the work that I already have done and such. It would just be even more work to use this as a base instead of a plain Manjaro Linux. Well anyways can't wait to test it out.

WOW This time I'm actually giving a thumbs up to something. Normally I am spending time hating on nVidia.
Title: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: computerkid9 on April 01, 2014, 09:56:48 PM
Does that mean all the software that is installed on your computer will not be included in this release??
Title: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: Spatry on April 01, 2014, 10:00:52 PM
Correct! I am not going to include software people may nor wish to use. I am offering a BASE system you can build on top of. If there is anything I hate more than finding soggy bathroom tissue in a public restroom, it is having to uninstall unneeded applications after doing a FRESH install of a Linux distro.
Title: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: computerkid9 on April 01, 2014, 10:07:57 PM
You should include a text document with the  list of packages on your system just what like Matthew_Moore did with his respin.
Title: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: Spatry on April 01, 2014, 10:09:46 PM
I will do better than that! I will have a video explaining usage and installed software.
Title: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: Kueller on April 01, 2014, 11:21:36 PM
Looking forward to how you get it all in a CD. Not using any major eye candy myself I'll probably have fun playing with your mug desktop cylinder.
Title: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: drum on April 02, 2014, 01:10:05 AM
looks very promissing, i have allready a netbook where i will put the 32-bit version on
Title: Re: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: mrmattdarnell on April 02, 2014, 08:25:05 AM
I will do better than that! I will have a video explaining usage and installed software.

A while back I asked QuidsUp what software he had on his Ubuntu system, just because I was curious. Turns out he took the time and made a video without me asking for one of all the software on his Ubuntu 13.04 installation. Now he runs SolydK, but anyways heres that video link. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jZTTp8nefw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jZTTp8nefw)
Title: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: Kurt on April 02, 2014, 10:15:44 AM
I think this is a great project ! - Only the other day I was thinking to myself about a light weight Manjaro install.

I thought about using Manjaro Open Box as a base and maybe adding Docky to make it more user friendly and other apps of course. But I failed at the first hurdle I couldn't even get Open Box to run.

Was just about to re-install Manjaro XFCE today but now I think I'll wait to see yours - Good Luck With That !

( P.s. I think the Matthew version is awesome just too heavy for my needs )

Regards
Title: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: Spatry on April 02, 2014, 01:39:34 PM
Kurt___ In Colopsys, your panel IS THE DOCK! Everything is there for quick and easy access!
Title: Re: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: DolphinT on April 02, 2014, 03:14:41 PM
If there is anything I hate more than finding soggy bathroom tissue in a public restroom*, it is having to uninstall unneeded applications after doing a FRESH install of a Linux distro.

*Or sand in Vaseline? ;D   
...probably doesn't count because you sorted that one out already!

Cheers!
Title: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: Vintalorian on April 02, 2014, 03:25:57 PM
Spatry, will you include instructions on how to re-add the window borders/window controls? Where I do understand why people remove them, and could probably get used to it, I'd like the option to put them back. So will there be video instructions on how to re-add or, even better, will you include a shortcut or something to re-enable the borders? I don't know. Just sort of a thought.
Title: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: blindpcguy on April 02, 2014, 03:26:59 PM
definitly will try it out spatry looks good. u should make this site the default homepage and have a google search bar on the home page
Title: Re: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: computerkid9 on April 02, 2014, 03:32:40 PM
Spatry, will you include instructions on how to re-add the window borders/window controls? Where I do understand why people remove them, and could probably get used to it, I'd like the option to put them back. So will there be video instructions on how to re-add or, even better, will you include a shortcut or something to re-enable the borders? I don't know. Just sort of a thought.
I think Spatry will include his Emerald Theme he created so you can use that and you will get window borders.
Title: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: artofmusic on April 02, 2014, 03:49:32 PM
At First I Thought This Said Calypso LOL!! Haha a twisted metal varient of Linux Would Be EPIC!! but I was wrong anyway good work on the distro Spatry. My Only Recommendation would be kwin instead of compiz for longevity reasons in case someone doesn't wanna change compositors plus I think Kwin uses GLSL so actual hardware rendering plus well maintained project.You can add a menu item to swap out compositors in case people don't have the machine for it here is how I did it for my distro:
nano /usr/share/applications/[name of entry].desktop

# Place The Compositor Of Choice Where The Exec is (in your case compiz --replace and have a different menu entry with xfwm4 --replace as a fallback)
[Desktop Entry]
Type=Application
Version=1.0
Name=Enable Kwin
Comment=Enable KDE Compositing
Icon=kde
Exec=kwin --replace
Terminal=false
Categories=Settings;

Hope This Helps and the item you make will show in the whisker menu.
Title: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: Spatry on April 02, 2014, 04:20:30 PM
At First I Thought This Said Calypso LOL!! Haha a twisted metal varient of Linux Would Be EPIC!! but I was wrong anyway good work on the distro Spatry. My Only Recommendation would be kwin instead of compiz for longevity reasons in case someone doesn't wanna change compositors plus I think Kwin uses GLSL so actual hardware rendering plus well maintained project.You can add a menu item to swap out compositors in case people don't have the machine for it here is how I did it for my distro:
nano /usr/share/applications/[name of entry].desktop

# Place The Compositor Of Choice Where The Exec is (in your case compiz --replace and have a different menu entry with xfwm4 --replace as a fallback)
[Desktop Entry]
Type=Application
Version=1.0
Name=Enable Kwin
Comment=Enable KDE Compositing
Icon=kde
Exec=kwin --replace
Terminal=false
Categories=Settings;

Hope This Helps and the item you make will show in the whisker menu.

Your proposal will not be necessary. I will have the fusion-icon automatically launch at startup. This gives the end user easy access to CCSM and Emerald. Also, users will be able to easily switch from XFWM4 and Compiz. Everything will be outlined in video documentation.
Title: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: artofmusic on April 02, 2014, 04:35:44 PM
Awh Maybe Useful For Someone Else However as if your using kwin + xfwm4 or any other non compiz compistor/ window manager setup with xfce
Title: Re: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: M.S.M. on April 03, 2014, 01:16:27 AM
I will do better than that! I will have a video explaining usage and installed software.

ManjaroISO automatically gives you a text file with all the packages in it after the image is built.  So it's easy enough.
Title: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: artofmusic on April 03, 2014, 01:28:56 AM
Hope You Don't Get Sued by sony for your distro name as it sounds incredibly close to the name of the last boss in all the twisted metal games LOL!!!!!
Title: Re: Re: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: mrmattdarnell on April 03, 2014, 08:27:40 AM
ManjaroISO automatically gives you a text file with all the packages in it after the image is built. So it's easy enough.

Yes, but if people are wondering what software he has on his machine than he will need a video for it. I think (not 100% sure) he stated earlier that he was not including all the software he uses, but just what is needed. So not only is it small, but it just might be 700MB or less for a standard CDR/RW.
Title: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: Spatry on April 03, 2014, 08:44:16 AM
I can assure you the software listing will be as minimal as possible. In a nutshell, I am taking the standard "Manjaro XFCE" and REMOVING a bunch of applications from it, then I am adding my own customizations and themes. More will be revealed as this project comes closer to completion. I want to keep some things a surprise so I am not going to reveal any more!
Title: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: artofmusic on April 03, 2014, 09:49:10 AM
Man I wish my distro could be small mines an absolute monster 3.9gb to be exact LOL!!
Title: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: Coastie on April 03, 2014, 12:12:24 PM
I can assure you the software listing will be as minimal as possible. In a nutshell, I am taking the standard "Manjaro XFCE" and REMOVING a bunch of applications from it, then I am adding my own customizations and themes. More will be revealed as this project comes closer to completion. I want to keep some things a surprise so I am not going to reveal any more!

This sounds tempting to try especially since it is a rolling distro. A few questions:

Will it be beginner friendly?

Will it work on older computers like mine?
Processor : 4x Intel® Atom™ CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz
Memory : 2053MB (400MB used)
Operating System : Linux Lite 1.0.8
-Display-Resolution : 1920x1080 pixels
-Multimedia-Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
-SCSI Disks-SONY DVD RW DW-Q28A ATA ST3500320AS
Kernel : Linux 3.8.0-35-generic (i686)

Your review and Matthew Moore's show that updates are done by the Terminal but on http://vimeo.com/user13988910, (http://vimeo.com/user13988910,) it showed a GUI updater and notifier. Will Colopsys have it also or at least one like in "Install Update - Terminal" like in Linux Lite?

Is there a software center for Manjaro? I have used Synaptic (similar to the package managers in Manjaro before but sometimes hard to find a package if you are not sure what package you want and what should go with it. If there isn't could the Ubuntu (or Lubuntu/Linux Lite) Software Center be used?

How do you pronounce Colopsys?
Title: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: Spatry on April 03, 2014, 12:30:29 PM
ColOpSys (Kul-op-sis) will not be user friendly in that the default themes will have borderless windows which means you will press a key and mouse button combo to move or resize windows. This can be changed easily though. It should run fine on the system you specified. Graphics acceleration is required to enjoy the nice Compiz/Emerald pack which will ship with the distribution.
Title: Re: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: Coastie on April 03, 2014, 12:43:15 PM
ColOpSys (Kul-op-sis) will not be user friendly in that the default themes will have borderless windows which means you will press a key and mouse button combo to move or resize windows. This can be changed easily though. It should run fine on the system you specified. Graphics acceleration is required to enjoy the nice Compiz/Emerald pack which will ship with the distribution.

Thanks. Hopefully your video will so how to change the default borderless windows if not just a simple change in Windows Manager. I do not think I have graphics acceleration but think I could uninstall the Compiz/Emerald pack.

 (http://vimeo.com/user13988910,) Will Colopsys have the Manjaro GUI updater and notifier or at least one like in "Install Update - Terminal" like in Linux Lite?

Is there a software center for Manjaro?

If there isn't, could the Ubuntu (or Lubuntu/Linux Lite) Software Center be used?
Title: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: Spatry on April 03, 2014, 12:52:44 PM
Manjaro has a GUI package manager much like synaptic. It does not have a software center like Deepin or Ubuntu which has pretty graphical icons, but it soes give oyu text based descriptions of software you can install. Because it has AUR support, you will have more packages available to you than many distributions offer.
Title: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: Coastie on April 03, 2014, 01:04:21 PM
That will work. I was reading on forums that Manjaro's package managers aren't very descriptive as software centers or have reviews but I could do that do more research on forums, etc. before deciding on what package I wanted.

Will Colopsys have the Manjaro GUI updater and notifier or at least one like in "Install Update - Terminal" like in Linux Lite?
Title: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: drum on April 03, 2014, 01:17:55 PM
@ Coastie, seems like "Octopi" should be a good choice for someone knew to arch-based distro's.
But when i read that you are in search for a beginner friendly distro i don't think that it is a wise diccision to go with Arch-based.
Title: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: Spatry on April 03, 2014, 01:19:15 PM
Even when I used Ubuntu based distributions, I would perform research online for potential applications I wanted to try. Often I will visit sites like noobslab or webupd8 and when they mention new applications are available which peak my interest, I will search the AUR for them. To my surprise they often appear in the Manjaro repos already.
Title: Re: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: Spatry on April 03, 2014, 01:21:39 PM
@ Coastie, seems like "Octopi" should be a good choice for someone knew to arch-based distro's.
But when i read that you are in search for a beginner friendly distro i don't think that it is a wise diccision to go with Arch-based.
If coastie has some technical know-how, I would actually encourage trying out Manjaro. It is not that hard to learn and the terminal commands are easier than what you would issue in Ubuntu IMHO!
Title: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: Coastie on April 03, 2014, 02:13:18 PM
If coastie has some technical know-how, I would actually encourage trying out Manjaro. It is not that hard to learn and the terminal commands are easier than what you would issue in Ubuntu IMHO!


Not sure about the Terminal use but your Colopsys Manjaro may be my first step up in difficulty level distro. I know I am not ready for Arch.

Still wonder if Colopsys have the Manjaro GUI updater and notifier or at least one like in "Install Update - Terminal" like in Linux Lite?
Title: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: Spatry on April 03, 2014, 02:23:17 PM
It will have all features of Manjaro including the updater.
Title: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: mahmoud on April 03, 2014, 08:09:55 PM
Work more wonderful 
We are waiting for this to work 
I hope that there will be programs video output vokoscreen , kdenlive and video conviert
Add a lot of themes
Title: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: Spatry on April 03, 2014, 09:29:50 PM
As stated before mahmoud, this will be a very minimal OS which you can build on top of. I want to try to make this small enough to fit on a CD if possible.
Title: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: wyldthang on April 04, 2014, 01:14:59 PM
Spatry,
This looks great! You know I'm a big KDE fan but I will definitely give this a try.
Title: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: Spatry on April 04, 2014, 01:27:53 PM
YOU BETTER! OR I will ban you from the forum and I will take away your birthday... But not before I humiliate you in public by forcing you spray paint "cupoflinux.com" on every building in the city of New York! LOL- TEASING!

If I am lucky, I should have something everyone can try this weekend! WOO HOO!
Title: Re: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: DolphinT on April 04, 2014, 03:03:37 PM

Not sure about the Terminal use but your Colopsys Manjaro may be my first step up in difficulty level distro. I know I am not ready for Arch.

Still wonder if Colopsys have the Manjaro GUI updater and notifier or at least one like in "Install Update - Terminal" like in Linux Lite?

I'm surprised nobody posted this link: ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv_xORkHE8M#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv_xORkHE8M#ws)

...and from the conclusion in the video i'm guessing The Boss will be including Pamac (unless it's going to be too stripped down for either package manager/updater).

What i can tell you though, is that any arch related fears you have about Manjaro and it's spins are pretty redundant, as Manjaro protects you from a lot of the risk of breakage that folk report when using Arch.

Anyway, Colopsys is being developed by 'The Boss' and he's very thorough, plus he LOVES Manjaro and won't sell us a crock. I can pretty much guarantee that.

I know that i'll be giving it a spin in full confidence when it's ready :)
Title: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: Spatry on April 04, 2014, 03:14:08 PM
Unfortunately I could not get a CD sized ISO. It will be 1.2gig. YES PAMAC comes standard with Manjaro XFCE so that is what you will be getting :D
Title: Re: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: DolphinT on April 04, 2014, 03:21:05 PM
Unfortunately I could not get a CD sized ISO. It will be 1.2gig. YES PAMAC comes standard with Manjaro XFCE so that is what you will be getting :D

Sounds fine to me.

I don't think that there are many modern distros that still fit (or even try to fit) on a CD these days anyway. Don't most folk use USB sticks now?

...will Colopsys copy to USB okay with unetbootin?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Colopsys is UNDERWAY!
Post by: Will on April 04, 2014, 04:37:37 PM
Sounds fine to me.

I don't think that there are many modern distros that still fit (or even try to fit) on a CD these days anyway. Don't most folk use USB sticks now?

...will Colopsys copy to USB okay with unetbootin?

Should copy fine with Unetbootin, if Manjaro works with it.

Looking forward to this! Might/Will install this on my new PC when it's bought and I've built it! :D
Title: Re: Manjaro-Cup of Linux Edition is UNDERWAY!
Post by: artofmusic on April 04, 2014, 05:08:36 PM
Most distros even Ubuntu now doesn't fit on a CD. If your computer only boots CD-ROMS you'll need a pre-bootloader like this one Plop Boot Manager (http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/index.html)
Puppy is a great distro for such hardware and is between 100 and 200mb tiny but powerful.
Title: Re: Manjaro-Cup of Linux Edition is UNDERWAY!
Post by: Spatry on April 04, 2014, 05:14:16 PM
Plop had saved my behind on a few occasions! Great that you mentioned it. I should add that one to my todo list!
Title: Re: Manjaro-Cup of Linux Edition is UNDERWAY!
Post by: computerkid9 on April 04, 2014, 08:10:37 PM
Why did you want it to be small enough to fit on a CD spatry(just asking).That's great that we'll be able to try an alpha this weekend